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concluded affair and we got in to it for understandable reasons. >> christin, something else on the fiscal cliff. a drop in confidence and zero u.s. economic growth with no agreement on this fiscal cliff and indeed a ripple effect in the eurozone and elsewhere. do you think the politicians understand the kind of seriousness of the game that they're playing at the moment? >> i think they do and a good sign is notice in the last day or two, you haven't been hearing as much come out of either members of congress or the white house. president obama right now is i think on the road in detroit. gave a speech today about the economy. but you're seeing a little bit less of the sort of back and fort we saw a weeking a with tim geithner putting out a plan and republicans releasing a letter publicly. i think negotiations of this kind best if they're happening without a lot of the public political posturing. i think that's the direction you have seen things go in the last few days so i'm hoping that's a good sign for things and taken seriously. >> i hope you're right. it is childish, i think. finally
to think of this medium and long term risk as the fiscal avalanche. the cliff is something we are approaching now and we can see where it is. we know will hit the cliff. the avalanche is different. the only thing you know about avalanches, you know when the conditions are present. you know when the snowpack has built up to the point where it could happen. you do not know when it is going to happen, you just know it is coming. once it hits you, the avalanche becomes completely impossible to control. do you agree with this characterization about the avalanche? could you elaborate about that kind of threat? >> would you mind if i steal that from you? i will give you credit. i think it is right. i do think -- that is why what you're doing now is so important. this is a once in a generation opportunity for you to nail these things down. we're not that far apart. i really do not think we are. if you are able to put us on a credible path to fiscal sustainability, do it in a balanced way, i think we are golden. i think we will avoid that avalanche. if we do not do that, ultimately, it
kids and the next generations. and on the right the road on the right is the fiscal cliff. really that the is choice if we don't do something about it we are going to go anyway. do you run over the kids with the car or do you take the other road which is not a good one but better than running over your kids fiscal cliff. it's a hard choice. >> but if we don't do it, if we don't go over the fiscal cliff the democrats will never cut a dime in spending. >> why would the democrats want change? if the bush tax cuts are going to expire they are saying this is great because this means the rich are going to pay more money, we are going to have more money to spend. they are already spending a the lo. they are saying why would we want change? this is great we have more money to spend. >> nancy pelosi saying why aren't we voting on middle class tax cuts? get to the other stuff. put this up for a vote: listen to nancy pelosi. we are not here to pass the middle income tax cut why are we here to not deat a time the middle income tax cut. could it be that the republicans are holding the middle i
's on all of our minds here, the fiscal cliff. and i would be remiss if i didn't ask you both to weigh in on it. but in the following way, number one, what's going on that we don't understand? number two, what should happen? number three, what's the r.s.c. going to do to help us get to that better state of what should happen? either one of you wants to chime in on that one? >> first of all, you know, if you look at where we are right now, it's because of a number of reasons. jim touched on a few of them, going back to the debt ceiling deal. i did not vote for the budget control act. to me it didn't address the real problem and that's spending. if you look at the debate right now, it's mostly about the debate of how much faxes we need to raise. the president keeps adding more to it because he has an insatiablet appetite to add more. we are not addressing the real problem. i don't think anybody's taxes need to go up. you look at what barack obama said three years ago. if you raise taxes in a bad economy it will make things worse. we're still in a bad economy. why would we want to do thin
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